Dear Prasad,
Thank You to make it very clear. I will add a few thoughts more here.
A critical analysis of Bible – a very few points from New Testament
GOSPEL OF ST. MATHEW "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was this wise: When as his mother Mary espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost…..behold the angel of the lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto the Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost." (1:18:20)
Analysis: - No educated man can ever believe in such things as are oppose to all kinds of evidence (Such as direct Cognition. Inference etc.) and to the laws of nature. Only people in a state of barbarism can believe them. It does not become educated and civilized men to do so. Breathes there a man who could violate the laws of God? Should anyone succeed in subverting His law, no one will ever obey His commandments, nor would God Himself break His own laws as He is Omniscient and infallible. If this story of the birth of the Christ were held to be true, an unmarried girl that happens to conceive could say that she was with child of the Holy Ghost. She could also falsely say that the angel of the Lord told her in a dream "that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost"! Only those who have 'more money than brains' can believe in such things and fall an easy prey to superstition. It must have happened like this that Mary co-habited with someone and thereby became enceinte. She or someone else gave out (such an impossible thing) that she had conceived of the Holy Ghost.
"Then was Jesus led up of the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered. And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread." (4: 1 - 3.)
Analysis: - This conclusively proves that the Christian God was not Omniscient, otherwise, why should He have had Jesus tempted of the devil? He would have known all about him by his Omniscience. Will a Christian live off he be kept without food for 40 days and 40 nights? It also proves that Jesus was neither the son of God nor did he possess any miraculous power or why would he not have turned stones into bread. Why would he have himself suffered from the pangs of hunger? The truth is that what God has created as stones no one could ever turn into bread, or could God Himself subvert His laws ordained by Himself since He is Omniscient and, all His works are free from error.
"Now in the morning as he returned into the city he hungered. And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward forever, And presently the fig tree withered away." (21:18, 19)
Analysis: - Now the missionaries always tell us that Christ was very calm, kind-hearted and free from anger and other such passions but these verses show that he was hot-tempered and ignorant of the laws that govern the phenomena of seasons and that he altogether behaved like a savage. Now a tree is not an intelligent being (that it could be held responsible foe bearing fruit). He cursed the (fig) tree for no cause; and if it be really true that the tree did wither away, it could not be due to his curse. We should not wonder if it had withered away by the use of some poison.
"And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayest. And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing. Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee? And he answered to never a word: in so much that the governor marveled greatly. Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be called. When he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified. Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers. And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe. And when they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe. And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, saying, Hail King of Jews! And they spit upon him and took the reed, and smote him on the head." "And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and led him away to crucify him. And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull. They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink. And they crucified him. And set up over his head his accusation written…
Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left. And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads. And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the son of God come down from the cross. Likewise also the Chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders said. He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross and we will believe him. He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God. The thieves also, which were crucified with him, cast the same in his teeth. Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, ELI, ELI, I AM A SABACHTHANI? That is to say, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me? Some of them that stood there, when they heard that said, This man calleth for Elias. And straightway one of them ran, and took a sponge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed,and gave him to drink, Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."(26:11-14, 22, 26 - 31, 33- 35, 37 - 48, 50.) Analysis: - Those wicked people treated Jesus very badly indeed.
But Jesus was also to be blame, since he pretended to be the son of God. Now God has no son, nor is He the father of anyone, because if this be the case, He would also be the father-in-law, brother-in-law, etc., of some one. Besides, when the governor asked him, "Art thou the King of the Jews, etc., he ought to have told him what he knew to be the truth. Had the miracles supposed to have been worked by him been true, he would have then come down from the cross and thereby converted them all.Again had he been the Son of God, He too would have saved him. Had he been a seer, he would have refused to take the drink of vinegar and gall that was offered without tasting it. He would have known its composition before-hand. Had he possessed any miraculous power, he would not have cried so much before he yielded up the ghost. This shows that a man may be ever so clever the truth will be out. It is also clear that Jesus was a little better than other men of his time who were all savages. He did not possess any miraculous power nor was he the Son of God, nor was he an enlightened man else he would not have suffered from mental anguish at the time of his death.
From: Prasad N <prasad_n83@yahoo.co.in>
To: Keralites <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 26 November 2011 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Do you need God?
Dear Mr John/Binil,
I never misquote any of the statements from bible. You can search in the bible with clause which I had given after each statement. If you think that I misquoted any statements please clarify with the meaning & evidence. Let people know the fact.
What I shared is my point of view, after reading the bible regarding some of the quotes from bible. For that ,you don't need to increase your blood pressure if you think that your belief is correct, rather the right way of replying is to clarify each statement one by one and not just blaming the person who said the facts ,or better not to reply.
What I wrote here is only just 5% of bad & rude statements which I found in Bible. There is balance 95% which I did not write and not planned to. As you said these types of statements are only in Old Testament I am writing here a quote from New Testament which is from Jesus. Think & analyze whether these are the words of divine & peace.
Do not think that I have come to bring peace to world. No I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. I came to set sons against their fathers, daughters against their mothers, daughter –in-law against mother in law. Your Worst enemies will be the members of your own family. (Mathews 10 – 34, 35)
The reason why I said "terrorists are better than the god mentioned in bible" is as follows:-
# The god said my anger will be directed to their destruction (Bible: Isaiah 10 -25)
Why the god is so angry always, like ordinary people? We always consider and say that god is merciful and filled with divine quality. Then why this god is always getting angry and directing his anger towards somebody whom he does not like? Directing the anger for destruction? Destruction is always a negative quality (as seen in terrorists), if it is not for the destruction of the evils. Here the destruction is to demonstrate the super power of god.
# Behold your god will come with vengeance (Isaiah 35- 4)
How can a good god always move with vengeance? Vengeance, anger, arrogance etc are the emotions and feelings of Satan. The threatening words are usually used by devils, burglars and thieves. Anyone good at heart will definitely talk good and sweet words. Never use the words with poison, like killing, destroying, revenging, and so on. Sweet words of guidance, blessings, guidance, motivating, appreciating are divine in nature. In Bible Jehovah mainly used threatening words. Let these words never be used for threatening the common poor people by the missionaries for spreading Christianity. We have seen thousands of missionaries using these threatening words of gods to create fear in the mind of the people and force them to embrace Christianity.
What I found is that the whole bible says if you believe in me (Jehovah/Jesus) I will give you good else I will destroy you by spreading plague, by cutting hand, by sending lion etc etc. God created fear in the mind of people for getting their salute. This is the terrorists' way; to kill a few people so that others will automatically be scared and start following and supporting the terrorist. God destroyed everything which did not consider him as god. So that all those who watches will be scared and will start doring and worshipping this god. Is this not terrorism of the modern world? God becoming jealous, cruel, egoistic, revengeful, angry, and so on not against the men doing the sins, but for not bowing their head before the god that too in the 21st century!
Understanding Spirituality is not believe without questioning and don't think that those who question are spiritually deaf, blind &dumb. People should think & analyze the statements from any of the books rationally, logically and scientifically and to take only good from that, accordingly should reject the bad too.
My intention is to read as much lines as possible from the holy book and inform the world that such instructions of the god should not be practiced. If people start literally following these messages of the god, in the 21st century, what would be the fate of the world?
Think it over again and again. Go through the holy book!
Have a Great Day
Thanks & Regards
Prasad
From: John cherian <john_cherian15@yahoo.com>
To: Keralites <Keralites@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 26 November 2011 12:22 AM
Subject: [www.keralites.net] Do you need God?
Do you need God?
Few quotes from Old Testament of Bible which is the story of Israelites who are selected by the Supreme Power to set an example to all Human beings. Old testament speaks about the holy and unholy things happened in relation to Isralites and gentiles around them. But Jesus Christ came to this world for the redemption of all people from their SINS , the people ever lived and going to live in this world till the Kingdom of God is established in this earth. The New Testament reveal about the Love of God to Man. God the Father so loved the people so that He has given His Begotten Son to us, by His Blood ( His Sacrifice) we are set free from Sins, for those who believe in Him. That is Gods Justice or righteousness. Think about this do you sacrifice your son for your enemy? How you call this Loving Father, a terrorist. One thing keep in your mind, we are just a creature, He is the Creator of this whole universe. We will be judged according our deeds and words. You have the choice to Believe or not, you have no choice to insult any bodys belief. Why you cannot understand spirituality, only because you are spiritually deaf, blind and dumb. So do not blame something if you do not understand. You can never see the Sun with a powerful torch, unless and until it shines by itself. Since you have BIBLE with you, read the following from Old testament itself, you will realize why you do not understand word of God.
Psalms{92:5} O LORD, how great are thy works! [and] thy thoughts are very deep. {92:6} A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.
For people like you, you have no right to take His Word in your mouth.Psalms:{50:16} But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or [that] thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth?
What God will do such people ? God who revealed Himself in the Bible is a Holy, Lovable and Righteous God. So He will not compromise on SINS, He is righteous God, hence He has to judge and punish and He is Lovable God and So He give all Men the Grace of Salvation who believe in His Son. Ask the Living God (whoever He is) to reveal the TRUTH to you and The TRUTH shall set you free from the Bondages of ignorance and Sin. Last but least, Bible says Our God is Heavenly Father, ONLY children can address in this way. For every one God is God, for Christians God is Heavenly Father. That is the Uniqueness and Right of True Christians through Our Lord Jesus Christ. HIS name be Glorified. He is King of King and God of god. He is the answer to all questions in this world and Eternity. HE IS COMING SOON AS THE JUDGE AND THE KING.Those who have ears, let them listen.
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From: Prasad N <prasad_n83@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:11 PM
Subject: [www.keralites.net] Re: Do you need God?
To: Keralites <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Hi, GOD SAID For this time I will ascend all my plagues on you and your servant and your people, so that you may know that there is no one like me in the earth (Exodus 9- 14) The God said: And all the first born in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of the pharaoh who sits on his throne, even to the first born of the slave girl who is behind the millstones; all the first born of the cattle as well. ( Exodus 11-5 ) God said: you shall not worship them or serve them; for I , the lord your god, am a jealous god, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate me (Exodus 20 5) If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand he shall be punished. If, however, he (slave) survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken, for he is his property (Exodus 21-20,21) You shall not worship their gods, nor serve them, nor do according to their deeds; but you shall utterly overthrow them, and break their sacred pillars in pieces. But if you shall serve the lord your god and he will bless your bread and your water; and I will remove sickness from your midst (exodus 23 -24,25) While the meat was still between their teeth, before it was chewed, the anger of the lord was kindled against the people, and the lord struck the people with a very severe plague (Numbers 11-33) And the lord said to Moses, how long will this people spurn me? And how long will they not believe in me despite all the signs which I have performed in their midst ? I will smite them with pestilence and disposes them ( Number 14 11,12) The people who arearound you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end. You shall not yield to him or listen to him and your eyes shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. But you shall surely kill him your hand shall be first against him to put him to death and afterwards the hand of all the people. So you shall stone him to death because he has sought to seduce you from the lord your god who brought you out from the land if Egypt ( Deuteronomy 13 -7-9) THE GOD SAID (in bible), behold, I will rise up evil against you from your own household; I will even take your wives before your eyes, and give them to your companion, and he shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. Indeed you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel and under the sun ((2 Samuel 12- 11,12) Thus says the lord, in the place where the dogs licked up the blood of Naboth the dogs shall lick up your blood, even yours (1 kings 21 -19- Bible) Then it happened the angel of the lord went out and struck 1, 85,000 in the camp of Assyrians and when men rose early in the morning, behold all of them are dead ( 2 kings 19 - 35)The god said my anger will be directed to their destruction (Bible: Isaiah 10 -25)
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