Thursday, December 22, 2011

Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive issue

 

Who told we are not respecting supreme court? Until now we are not against supreme court and it's final judgement has not came.

The verdict by the Apex court on February 2006 mentioned clearly that,

"We see No reason for Kerala to raise any objection, we permit the state of Tamilnadu to carryon the strengthening meaures as suggested by the central water commission. we do hope the state of Kerala would cooperate in this matter.

The state of Kerala and its officials are restrained from raising any obstackles. The TN Govt can maintain the level of water to 142 ft and after the completion of the remainng work it can raise the level upto 156 ft."

Why this verdict was not implemented if Kera govt is respecting to it? for the supremencourt there is no preliminary or trial judgement, ony one that is Final.

We are getting so many experts reports and in any of this reports are  not stating the dam is 100% safe.

If the the expert committe report was not convincable, there would not be a opinion by supreme court as mentioned above.

And even in   tamilnadu govts opinion, if the dam is breaking, all this water can occupy in idukki dam. That means they knows it can break.

It was also expained in details, 'there is no chance of any breakage, but if at all...for an arguement, if it happened ( or to make it happen by some miscreants) also there will be  no damage to any lives as it will flow to the idukki dam.

What is the meaning of terrorism that is happening in Tamilnadu nowadays?

Terrorism???!!, you mean violence?  Violence is not at all tolerated in any place at any level at any decree. If it is in TN or in Sabarimalai. 

Yes,, I do have responsibility.. your queries were answered not to prove that.. just to share the knowledge.

From: roy Thomas <roy_thomas94@yahoo.com>
To: "Keralites@yahoogroups.com" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive issue

Dear fm rasikan,

Who told we are not respecting supreme court? Until now we are not against supreme court and it's final judgement has not came. We are taking up real situations and worries of the public who are living this area. They are under threat in theses earthquakes which is happening in this area  . The  governments have responsibility to satisfy them.we are not claiming, we are 100% literate and that is why we are responding like this way apart from our Tamil brothers. We are getting so many experts reports and in any of this reports are  not stating the dam is 100% safe. And even in   tamilnadu govts opinion, if the dam is breaking, all this water can occupy in idukki dam. That means they knows it can break.Then why we should take risk? Is it the right way? What about the people who is staying near by this area? What is the meaning of terrorism that is happening in Tamilnadu nowadays? Is it according to any court? Dear u have a responsibility to give answers for these above questions . Mr. Fmrasikan I expect a reasonable opinion from your side.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:23 AM,
Jacob Joseph <rsjjin@yahoo.com> wrote:

OPEN ANSWER TO ALL

1) Supreme Court need to reconsider the increased quakes number of quakes in 2011 and the possibility of a quake above 5.5 (Otherwise Supreme court should be able to produce an Order in the effect than no earth quakes should in the area.) 

The MP dam was strengthened to withstand even upto a tremor of 7.0 Richter. God forbidden nothing should happen, even if the quatke hits 5.0 richter  I am sorry to say, no other buildings ( except MP dam) will withstand this.

2) The mullaperiyar issue is because of the increased number of quakes in 2011 and the possibility of a quake above 5.5. So no Govt, must wait for any orders to save their people from death.

If this is a concern, then the legal way is to approach the court again.. but kerala don't beleive in court or expert committe. that also would be encouraged in the court if it's verdict in 2006 was implemented.

3) If the lives of a number of persons are at risk, "SAVE THEIR LIVES" is important than any thing else.

Not Risk.. not at all Risk, Simply a SCARE created by the vote loving Politicians.

4) It is not necessary that expert committee members be experts in all relevant areas. e.g. current issue of mullaperiyar is not its strength but the Earth quakes in the area. None in the committee members are experts in Quakes. 

None are experts.. I like it  this means this includes all the politicians who spread this scare.

Another Question. 

Why do people in TN insist that the people of Kerala should face the risk or die in case of an accident, for TN to get water?

 

No, No one is interested in keep people under threat, not only humans,to any lives in that area including birds , animals, and even any insect will not be under Risk. Everyone will be safe.and 63 Lakh peole in TN will also will continue to live ( otherwise they will loose their lives of starvation)

Jacob Joseph

From: fm rasigan <fmrasigan@yahoo.com>
To: "Keralites@yahoogroups.com" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive issue

Open question to All.. What if some one don't respect the supreme court judgement? What if a Government does the same? We all claim ourselve as 100% literary region, Do we respect the Expert committee and their report? Please answer the above questions before having any opinion on this issue.

From: asif iqbal <asif_5592000@yahoo.com>
To: Keralites <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive issue

Sorry i am not hurting anyone , especailly my frends in Kerala,

Some time people like Dilip spilling vengens against everyone with out Basic knowledge...

My intention try to solve the both side issues.... so please don't follow politicians .. already they have corrupted the country.. and no need to separate & corrupt the people...

Think decided and make green side...

From: Ashik Mohammed Kapoor <ashikmdkapoor@yahoo.com>
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive issue
 
Dear Dilip And Asif,

First of all, being keralite i wanna tell something to Mr. Dilip that pls dont try to hurt our brothers in TN since our culture is not at all supporting this type of personnel assassination and to Mr Asif, I understood your feelings by hearing the words from Mr Dilip, pls realize that he has forced to say all these due to his scare means in future he may be the victim of MP dam collapse (I am sure by gods grace nothing will happen). Pls realize both of you that these type battles by using un parliamentary words will never solve the issue and will accelerate the burn.

I am sure that if any thing happen for MP dam (let us pray to almighty for nothing to happen) it will definitely effect Kerala as well as TN and ten thousands of poor peoples in all levels. So instead spitting dirty words like this pls try to hols our hands together to make the issue solved. If we success in this, we TN and Kerala peoples surely will have a place in world history for saving ten thousands of INDIANS (not keralites or tamilians).

Proud to be an INDIAN and try to live for INDIANS.

Regards,

Ashik Mohammed Kapoor,
National Contracting Co.
mob: 00966558845014
mail: ashikmdkapoor@yahoo.com

--- On Mon, 12/19/11, asif iqbal <asif_5592000@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: asif iqbal <asif_5592000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive issue
To: "Keralites@yahoogroups.com" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 19, 2011, 12:05 PM

Hi dilip,You are the no one stupid ... i am hurting other kerala frends..

You dont know the real fact why tamils are against the MP dam, its all propoganda created by your Minister for election.. you people stupidly trusting them..If tamils stop all the food you will eat only cocount & puttu & fish that it..You people have monkey brain , only do the bussines like tea shop and hotels nothing other..
if you people are very intelligent do the bussiness in kerala why you are coming to other state & begging.As you said tamils have peanut brain but that brain very valuable known to the world ..no need your lessons.

You people studying only BA ,BSC,BCOM.. nothing else.. but you people need manager job.ahah very funny.if tamils like kerala people no malayali will survive in TN . Tamils culture welcome everyone.

So mind you words... Put your agenda how to solve the issue , do not make dirty things..

From: dilip pishsrikovil <dilp_v@yahoo.com>
To: "Keralites@yahoogroups.com" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive issue

Hi Friends,

It seems we should all believe that ifthe MP dam breaks, all water will be cintained in idukki dam, as "Amma" says. In such a case, we have to believe the following also:

1) All Tamils in Tamilnadu is not at all bothered about the life of 80,000 inlcuding 50% Tamils between MP and idukki dam.Jayamma will have to clarify how she is going to dispose thousands ofTamil bodies? May be she can now organize and preparea group of doctors to retrive whatever organs that can be removedduring such an event..It's a very good opportunity...

2) She has any ideahow tamil makkalwill get water any more? Without a new dam, she doesn't mind about 3.5 million TN people going into starvation, poverty, famine and drought, with out any other source of water.. Is there any good reason she thinks it right to deprive them water by believing that present dam will stay for ever?

3) Why there is not a single Tamil leader who has somecommon sense in acceptingthe reality? How long they will cheat their own 'annchis'.. If (god forbid) something happens to MP dam, how will they face their own unfortunate people who blindly believed them with whatever peanut of brain they have???

4) Its like 'even if the son dies,its ok,since daughter in lawbecomes a widow'!!! Ha ha..

P.Dilip

From: prakash surya rao <eagle_2004@rediffmail.com>
To: "Keralites@yahoogroups.com" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2011 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive.

Drat Mr. John,

I have gone through the contents o your mail. What you argued is entirely wrong. You keralites are ignoring one basic fact. Mr. Benny Cook, has constructed the dam, for the common use of surrounding area, entering into an agreement the then Travancore Maharaja, fully on his own cost. Not even a single pie is spent by British Governmant or by any princcily states in India. It is scientifically proved that the MP dan is situated in Zone 3 area, where earthquake is rare. The present Kerala politicians view is purely politically motivated. When they are propadating false news about MP dam, for their political selfishness and for the utilisation of entire water by constructing a new dam between MP & Idikki dam for electricity purpose, is it not injust to Er. Benny Cook, who created the MP dam. Why you keralites always acting negatively in all the matters. U keralites read & talk about patriotism of the nation [Kanyakumari to Kashmir]; but practically adopt satism & selfishness. The MP dam is benefir to both Tamilnadu & Kerala.

We ate all the citizens of one India in which Tamilnadu & Kerala situated and don't follow the wrong ideas spread over by the bloody politicians of both the states. U Keralites think well and do good to the nation. All the politicians belonging to National Parties are having two faces - one face to cover the votes at their state level for Vote & the other face is at Delhi for capturing powewrful posts for their welfare only and no politician is really serve to the nation & people who voted for them. All are fradulents. For example Mr. Manmohan Singh is personally good. But can he react against the wish of Sonia, who prevents him from mediating the problem of Kerala, Karnataka & Andhra with Tamilnadu. Likewise other politicians.also. Please realise and do good to the welfare of both Tamilnadu & Kerala. Don't believe false propaganda of bloody selfish politiicians.

From: Frank Rajan <frank_rajan2001@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 07:02:44
To: Keralites<Keralites@YahooGroups.com>
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive issue
  • What Mr John Thomas HAS WRITTEN is absolutely correct.
  • No one can find the exact reason whyTamilNaduis trying to ignore such a gross and grotesque fact?! When they are standing on the other side, only their agriculture matters.
  • What if the 116 year old lime and surkey and rubble and added steel and concrete dam(we have seen what happens when concrete is poured on a surface that is notcongenialto it. The two will remain aloof and unmixed.) so much so what the weight of the thousand of tons of steel and concrete has done is to make the gravity dam more heavy. So far so good, but the concrete and steel may have split the once singular dam.
  • HOW MUCH WEIGHT CAN BE CONCENTRATED ON A PARTICULAR POINT ON THIS PART OF THE EARTH WITHOUT THE WEIGHT CAUSING SOME DELETERIOUS EFFECT ON THE TECTONIC PLATE?
Has anybody got an idea? Would that weight combined with the weight of the water make our mother earth to slightly shrug her shoulder?

TODAY THEDEFENSEMINISTER OF INDIA HAS MADE A VERY, VERY IRRESPONSIBLE AND INFLAMMATORY SPEECH IN TAMIL. IT SEEMS THAT HE IS ON HIS WAY OUT ACCUSED OF MANY MALPRACTICES AND SO, HE HAS DECIDED TO MAKE SURE THAT "AFTER HIM IT SHALL BE DELUGE". NOT ONLY THAT, HE HAS PREEMPTED THE SUPREME COURT JUDGEMENT AND SAID THAT TAMIL NADU'S CASE WILL BE WON (FROM WHAT HE HAS LEARNED FROM HIS SOURCES-IN THE SUPREME COURT?-AND BY THE DETAILS GIVEN BY HIS DEPARTMENT TO THE SUPREME COURT) AND THAT THE DAM WILL STAY....................

From: John Thomas <joal0791@yahoo.com>
To: "Keralites@yahoogroups.com" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2011 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Mullaperiyar issue a political motive issue.

Dear Mr.,

As long as you are at the other side of the dam, you can talk scientific fundas like Einstein or Newton. But people who live just below the dam and on the shores of river Periyar cannot talk such things at the moment. In 1979 itself this fear of dam break started, but by god's grace we are still alive here. But it is not a good idea to test how long the almighty may help us.

Your agriculture land turns to be barren is nothing in comparison with horrible death of people and geographical
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