Monday, November 15, 2010

RE: [www.keralites.net] ഇത് അത്യാവശ്യമായിരുന്നു.......????



Dear Mr. Thomas Mathew

 

Please try to understand the reality before posting any comment. Your worry is that the employee who is joining after 20 years will get his pension based on the pay he has drawn in the last one year prior to his retirement. What about the money value after 20 years. Is it a justice if pension is considered on the pay which someone had received 20 years back? His present salary might have increased four to five times due to pay revision as you mentioned. Will it be sufficient considering the inflation rate and present day living expenses? Further, please understand the fact that the wage revisions does not give any substantial increase to his salary for a person on long leave, as he was already denied 20 annual increments to his salary and any grade promotion as per the long leave rule. Actually he is getting a nominal rise in salary for compensating the inflation, even to a lesser extent.

 

Muraleedharan pillai. c


From: Keralites@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Keralites@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Mathew
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:39 PM
To: keralites@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [www.keralites.net]
ഇത് അത്യാവശ്യമായിരുന്നു.......????

 

 

Dear all

 

It is a misconception that persons who take long leave from Kerala Govt. service are not getting any pension benefits when they are on leave  Pension  is to be treated as deferred wages earned by an employee  during  his service period, paid to him on his retirement when he is no longer in a position to work to earn. That is, the amount of pension  depends on the wages earned and the period a person worked in an organisation. Keeping these principle in view, let us  examine the benefits being accrued to a person taking long leave from Kerala Government service and joining just before retirement to get the pension benefit.

 

Take the case of A who has proceeded on leave for 20 years after 12 years of service in the state government. After 20years he comes back and joins his old post and in an year he retires. The benefits he gets are (1) Pension for the 13 years of service in the state taking into consideration the pay he has drawn in the last one year prior to his retirement. Though he may be in the same post, the pay scale might  have increased four to five times due to pay revisions. He would have not become entitled to this higher pension, if he has left the job after 13 of service and given pension for that service. So the Government servant gets benefit of pension as if he has worked for 13 years in the higher scale of pay prior to his retirement.    (2) Similarly, the person gets  increased amount in gratuity based on the last pay drawn for the 13 years of service. 

 

I am not familiar with the KSRs. So any one is welcome to correct me, if I have gone wrong in my assumptions which are based on general principles of  employment in civil services. If my assumptions are correct, someone who is familiar with the KSRs is  requested to compute the additional burden on the State Government as pensionary benefits to the an employee who proceeds on long leave to take up employment elsewhere.

 

Thomas Mathew


To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com 
From: engeekay2003@yahoo.co.in
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:29:33 +0530
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] ഇത് അത്യാവശ്യമായിരുന്നു.......????

 

Dear Saheer,

your views are very well appreciated.

But the fact remains that,  "such people"  when they may not be getting the "pension benefit" during their absence, there is always the guarantee that , they are assured of a job and the  pension on retirement, at the cost of blocking some other poor soul's chance for a government job. dont you agree ?

I am not against anything...either this way or that way..but when I saw your comments, could not resist the temptation of putting across my feelings.

gud day to all.

 

engeekay2003.

 



--- On Sat, 13/11/10, Saheer <aasaheer@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Saheer <aasaheer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net]
ഇത് അത്യാവശ്യമായിരുന്നു.......????
To: "Keralites" <Keralites@YahooGroups.com>
Date: Saturday, 13 November, 2010, 4:36 PM

 

It is a wrong message which is being spread about the leave entitlement of state govt employees that they are eligible for pension for their period of emplyment abroad. Those who are on such leave are as good as they are not in service, That period is not counted when calculating pension. Govt need to pay not a single paisa to those individuals in the form of any kind of pay and allowances, for the leave period. There is also an instruction that the public service commision can take that as a generated vacancy and recruite a new employee. Why are all the people in kerala are much worried on there, including the law machinery?!!!

I am working as a First grade overseer in kerala PWD in my age of 43 and does any one think that I and my family can survive with the 12000 rupees of pay? I do not want to be corrupt and dont want to go after bribe, and for that reason I am here abroad. What do the people want, come back and live there like a begger having no guts to demand bribe?

Saheer


--- On Fri, 1and 2/11/10, PRADEEP B PILLAI <pradeepgcc@gmail.com> wrote:

From: PRADEEP B PILLAI <pradeepgcc@gmail.com>
Subject: [www.keralites.net]
ഇത് അത്യാവശ്യമായിരുന്നു.......????
To: "Keralites" <Keralites@YahooGroups.com>
Date: Friday, 12 November, 2010, 10:39 AM

 



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