Monday, October 24, 2011

Re: [www.keralites.net] Do you need God?

 

This is specially a reply to Mr.Binil

Dear Mr.Binil ,

I never misquote any of the statements from bible. You can search in the bible with clause which I had given after each statement. If you think that I misquoted any statements please clarify with the meaning & evidence. Let people know the fact.

What I shared is my point of view, after reading the bible regarding some of the quotes from bible. For that ,you don't need to increase your blood pressure if you think that your belief is correct,  rather the right way of replying is to clarify each statement one by one and not just blaming the person who said the facts ,or better not to reply.

What I wrote here is only just 5% of bad & rude statements which I found in Bible. There is balance 95% which I did not write and not planned to. As you said these types of statements are only in Old Testament I am writing here a quote from New Testament which is from Jesus. Think & analyze whether these are the words of divine & peace.

Do not think that I have come to bring peace to world. No I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. I came to set sons against their fathers, daughters against their mothers, daughter –in-law against mother in law. Your Worst enemies will be the members of your own family. (Mathews 10 – 34, 35)

The reason why I said "terrorists are better than the god mentioned in bible" is as follows:-

# The god said my anger will be directed to their destruction (Bible: Isaiah 10 -25)
Why the god is so angry always, like ordinary people? We always consider and say that god is merciful and filled with divine quality. Then why this god is always getting angry and directing his anger towards somebody whom he does not like?  Directing the anger for destruction?  Destruction is always a negative quality (as seen in terrorists), if it is not for the destruction of the evils. Here the destruction is to demonstrate the super power of god.

# Behold your god will come with vengeance (Isaiah 35- 4)
How can a good god always move with vengeance? Vengeance, anger, arrogance etc are the emotions and feelings of Satan. The threatening words are usually used by devils, burglars and thieves. Anyone good at heart will definitely talk good and sweet words. Never use the words with poison, like killing, destroying, revenging, and so on. Sweet words of guidance, blessings, guidance, motivating, appreciating are divine in nature. In Bible Jehovah mainly used threatening words. Let these words never be used for threatening the common poor people by the missionaries for spreading Christianity. We have seen thousands of missionaries using these threatening words of gods to create fear in the mind of the people and force them to embrace Christianity.
What I found is that the whole bible says if you believe in me (Jehovah/Jesus) I will give you good else I will destroy you by spreading plague, by cutting hand, by sending lion etc etc. God created fear in the mind of people for getting their salute. This is the terrorists' way; to kill a few people so that others will automatically be scared and start following and supporting the terrorist. God destroyed everything which did not consider him as god. So that all those who watches will be scared and will start doring and worshipping this god. Is this not terrorism of the modern world? God becoming jealous, cruel, egoistic, revengeful, angry, and so on not against the men doing the sins, but for not bowing their head before the god that too in the 21st century!

Understanding Spirituality is not believe without questioning and don't think that those who question are spiritually deaf, blind &dumb. People should think & analyze the statements from any of the books rationally, logically and scientifically and to take only good from that, accordingly should reject the bad too.
My intention is to read as much lines as possible from the holy book and inform the world that such instructions of the god should not be practiced. If people start literally following these messages of the god, in the 21st century, what would be the fate of the world?

Think it over again and again. Go through the holy book!
 
 
 
Have a Great Day
Thanks & Regards
Prasad

From: binil thomas <binilae@gmail.com>
To: Keralites <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2011 7:22 AM
Subject: [www.keralites.net] Do you need God?

 

Your comments about few quotes from Old Testament of Bible which is the story of Israelites who are selected by the Supreme Power to set an example to all Human beings. Old testament speaks about the holy and unholy things happened in relation to Isralites and gentiles around them. But Jesus Christ came to this world for the redemption of all people from their SINS , the people ever lived and going to live in this world till the Kingdom of God is established in this earth. The New Testament reveal about the Love of God to Man. God the Father so loved the people so that He has given His Begotten Son to us, by His Blood ( His Sacrifice) we are set free from Sins, for those who believe in Him. That is Gods Justice or righteousness. Prasad, think about this do you sacrifice your son for your enemy? How you call this Loving Father, a terrorist. One thing keep in your mind, we are just a creature, He is the Creator of this whole universe. We will be judged according our deeds and words. You have the choice to Believe or not, you have no choice to insult any bodys belief. Why you cannot understand spirituality, only because you are spiritually deaf, blind and dumb. So do not blame something if you do not understand. You can never see the Sun with a powerful torch, unless and until it shines by itself. Since you have BIBLE with you, read the following from Old testament itself, you will realize why you do not understand word of God.


Psalms{92:5} O LORD, how great are thy works! [and] thy thoughts are very
deep.
{92:6} A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.
For people like you, you have no right to take His Word in your mouth.
Psalms:{50:16} But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare
my statutes, or [that] thou shouldest take my covenant in thy
mouth?
What God will do such people ?
Psalms{50:22} Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear [you] in
pieces, and [there be] none to deliver.
God who revealed Himself in the Bible is a Holy, Lovable and Righteous God. So He will not compromise on SINS, He is righteous God, hence He has to judge and punish and He is Lovable God and So He give all Men the Grace of Salvation who believe in His Son. Ask the Living God (whoever He is) to reveal the TRUTH to you and The TRUTH shall set you free from the Bondages of ignorance and Sin.
Look at this instance: If somebody split your name Prasad as Pra SAD= SADDIST, is it true?. The same way you are misquoting some statement from the Bible out of Context and interpreting maliciously in a wrong way so as to reflect your dirty thoughts of Evil. I am giving you just as an example. Bible says Wisdom of Men is foolery in front of God. God is Almighty, Omnipresent and All Knowing. He reigns whole universe and He does not anybodys support for His Kingdom.
Last but least, Bible says Our God is Heavenly Father, ONLY children can address in this way. For every one God is God, for Christians God is Heavenly Father. That is the Uniqueness and Right of True Christians through Our Lord Jesus Christ. HIS name be Glorified. He is King of King and God of god. He is the answer to all questions in this world and Eternity. HE IS COMING SOON AS THE JUDGE AND THE KING.
Those who have ears, let them listen.
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From: Prasad N <prasad_n83@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:11 PM
Subject: [www.keralites.net] Re: Do you need God?
To: Keralites <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>

Hi,
Here are some comments from Bible.After reading Bible i felt that terrorists are better than the god mentioned in bible.Is this book is called as Holy Book?
GOD SAID For this time I will ascend all my plagues on you and your servant and your people, so that you may know that there is no one like me in the earth (Exodus 9- 14)
God said For if by now I had put forth my hand and struck you and your servants and your people with pestilence, you would then have been cut off from the earth (Exodus 9 15 )
The God said: And all the first born in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of the pharaoh who sits on his throne, even to the first born of the slave girl who is behind the millstones; all the first born of the cattle as well. ( Exodus 11-5 )
And when Israel saw the great power which the lord had used against the Egyptians, the people feared the lord and they believed in the lord and in his servant Moses ( Exodus 14-31 )

God said: you shall not worship them or serve them; for I , the lord your god, am a jealous god, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate me (Exodus 20 5)
The god said; and if a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the males do (Exodus 21 -7 )
If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand he shall be punished. If, however, he (slave) survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken, for he is his property (Exodus 21-20,21)
He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the lord alone, shall be utterly destroyed (exodus 22-20)
You shall not worship their gods, nor serve them, nor do according to their deeds; but you shall utterly overthrow them, and break their sacred pillars in pieces. But if you shall serve the lord your god and he will bless your bread and your water; and I will remove sickness from your midst (exodus 23 -24,25)
Watch yourself that you make no covenant with the inhabitants of the land into which you are going, lest it become a snare in your midst. Rather, you are to tear down their altars and smash their sacred pillars and cut down their asherims ( exodus 34- 12,13)
While the meat was still between their teeth, before it was chewed, the anger of the lord was kindled against the people, and the lord struck the people with a very severe plague (Numbers 11-33)
The anger of the lord burned against them and he departed. But when the cloud had withdrawn from over the tent, behold, Miriam was leprous, as white as snow. As Aaron turned toward Miriam, behold she was leprous ? (Numbers 12- 9,10)
And the lord said to Moses, how long will this people spurn me? And how long will they not believe in me despite all the signs which I have performed in their midst ? I will smite them with pestilence and disposes them ( Number 14 11,12)
Then you shall destroy out all the inhabitants of the land before you and destroy all their figured stones and destroy and their molten images and demolish all their high places; and you shall take possession of the land and live in it, for I have given the land to you to possess it ? (Number 33-52)
The people who arearound you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end. You shall not yield to him or listen to him and your eyes shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. But you shall surely kill him your hand shall be first against him to put him to death and afterwards the hand of all the people. So you shall stone him to death because he has sought to seduce you from the lord your god who brought you out from the land if Egypt ( Deuteronomy 13 -7-9)
If two men , a man and his country man, are struggling together and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not pity ( Bible: Deuteronomy 25-11)

THE GOD SAID (in bible), behold, I will rise up evil against you from your own household; I will even take your wives before your eyes, and give them to your companion, and he shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. Indeed you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel and under the sun ((2 Samuel 12- 11,12)
Thus says the lord:, because you have let go out of your hand the man whom I (the god) devoted to destruction, therefore your life shall go for his life and your people for his people (1 Kings 20 -42)
Thus says the lord, in the place where the dogs licked up the blood of Naboth the dogs shall lick up your blood, even yours (1 kings 21 -19- Bible)
And it came about at the beginning of their living there, that they did not fear the lord; therefore the lord sent lions among them which killed some of them (Bible 2 kings 17 25).
Then it happened the angel of the lord went out and struck 1, 85,000 in the camp of Assyrians and when men rose early in the morning, behold all of them are dead ( 2 kings 19 - 35)
The god said my anger will be directed to their destruction (Bible: Isaiah 10 -25)


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